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Exhausted and Confused?   Yes! I need help and more sleep.
Exhausted and Confused?   Yes! I need help and more sleep.
Exhausted and Confused?   Yes! I need help and more sleep.

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  1. Nikki says

    My 3mo old does not sleep. Ever. Naps are rare and usually short (20 min cat nap) unless he sleeps on me or falls asleep in the car or while out and about. He has been going to sleep at night around 9p. He used to sleep 5+ hours then wake up ever 1.5-2 hours until 730-8. Lately, however, he’s been sleeping 4 hours and then is up every hour. He has gas that wakes him up and makes him fuss. We give him gas drops & gripe water, but nothing helps completely. I try to get him to nap but he just cries until I pick him up. I’m trying to stick to him only eating every 2+ hours which is hard sometimes. We’re working on a routine as well. (night time bath, eat, read, bed). Nothing seems to be working & I don’t know what else to do. I know he’s gotta be tired. He probably doesn’t sleep 8-10 hours a day.

  2. Lisa says

    Regarding toddlers … What if your child can’t sleep 13 or 14 hours total, including a nap & nighttime sleep? Just trying to figure out the standard 5 hours before & after nap if my child is already waking too early? If he takes his 1 nap 5-5 1/2 hrs after waking around 5, he is taking a nap around 1030, maybe sleeping 3 hours (if we’re lucky!), waking around 2. But then he is super tired by 7pm. If we put him to bed that early, will that reinforce the 5am wake time? Not sure if this makes sense but just trying to figure out the “math” of it all, with naps & sleep & 10+ hrs of time all adding up to 24 hrs!

  3. prajakta says

    hi, I have been reading some of your articles but haven’t found any feasible and practicle solution to my baby’s sleeping problem.

    She is 4 month 1 week and has habit of sucking her 2 fingers when hungry, sleepy or bored. She can put herself to sleep by sucking on her fingers but I don’t allow her because I am afraid she won’t quit the habit. so I put her to sleep by singing and swinging in cradle.

    She doesnt sleep for more than 2 hours in row, day or night.
    She is down by 9:30pm but stirs up or gets restless every 2 hrs. She doesnt wake up, instead starts sucking her fingers vigourously and rolls side to side. Unsure whether she is hungry or just having difficulty going back to sleep, I first try to nurse her or pat her. This goes on whole night. She is up by 8am.

    Her daytme naps are 9am (1hr) , 1pm( 2 or 3 hrs), 7pm (1hr).

    we live in one of the hottest city of a hot country India.
    I breastfeed and give formula by bottle occasionaly.

  4. Allison says

    I am constantly tracking the sleep habits of my spirited 10 month old son who has been a frequent night waker since birth. My husband and I both work very demanding full time jobs and therefore “sleeping through the night” is soooo important to us. Recently, my son has gotten much better about not waking up except maybe once a night and will rock back to sleep with my husband rather quickly. So, we are very proud of him for that! Currently, my son wakes up at around 8 am (give or take a half hr) and goes to bed at 8:30pm(give or take a half hr). He takes 2-3 naps per day which range from 45 mins (on the dot) to 1 1/2 hrs (most common length) and all the way up to 2 1/2 hrs on occasion. His awake time in between naps is anywhere from 2 to 2 1/2 hrs at most or he is a mess. My question is regarding naps. Should he be able to stay up longer in between naps at this age? He just can’t seem to do it, or its a nightmare. Also, should I be waking him up in the morning at the same exact time (unless he’s up already) or should I let him sleep and naturally wake up on his own depending on the time he went to bed the night before? I am also confused as to whether or not I should skip the third nap if its getting too close to bedtime or wake him up from a third nap that ends up running long to preserve his bedtime. Your help is greatly appreciated!! I LOVE YOUR WEBSITE AND ALL YOUR FANTASTIC ADVICE!

    • Nicole says

      @Allison It sounds like your son is doing GREAT! Average sleep needs and awake periods are just that and there will always be babies that fall outside of the “norm” so if you find that he can only stay awake 2 to 2 1/2 hours at a time, still, it is most likely fine. The average, at this age, is 3-4 hours, but all babies are different. If you are ever concerned, I recommend talking to your doctor, of course. How rigid you make your schedule is really up to you and what works for your baby. As a general rule of thumb, I recommend having the awake time in the morning to be within 30 minutes, if you want/need a very predictable schedule. For some babies letting them wake up at all different times can make schedules really hard. As far as the third nap, most 10 month olds don’t have a third nap, so if it’s getting too late, most likely you’d skip it and make bedtime earlier. If he is a baby that needs a lot of sleep (i.e. he sleeps 11-12 hours at night and needs 3 naps and the first two are at least an hour), then he may need the third catnap and slightly later bedtime. The key is finding the schedule that works for him. 🙂 I’m glad you love the site and my advice. Thank you so much!! 🙂

      @Prajakta It sounds like your daughter is learning to self-soothe and that is great! If she doesn’t need anything at night, she will most likely suck her fingers and go right back to sleep. It is normal to wake between sleep cycles, so try not to interrupt her, because she may still be asleep. I would try not to worry that she will suck on her fingers forever. Many babies will suck their fingers for comfort and most will stop of their own accord. Many babies this age still eat about twice per night, so you may want to feed her, if she has trouble going back to sleep, but otherwise, it sounds like she’s just trying to go back to sleep. Good luck!

      @Lisa Most of the time, it is counter-intuitive that an early bedtime will mean earlier wake-up time in the morning. It is true that some toddlers will be unable to sleep 12 hours at night. Most will at least sleep 11 hours, though. There are many variations of schedules. The 5 hours awake before and after is just one of the most common.

      @Nikki It sounds like your baby is beginning the “4 month sleep regression” which can start any time between 3 and 5 months. The biggest key, at this age, is usually to keep awake time ultra short, 1-2 hours TOPS. Here is the link to the 4 month sleep regression article: https://www.babysleepsite.com/how-we-sleep/4-month-old-sleep-regression/ . I know this is a really tough age. It’s usually too young to formally sleep train, but you may want to begin helping her learn to fall asleep on her own, if she can. Sometimes their abilities at this age is not fully developed. Hang in there and good luck!!

  5. Lisa says

    nicole, you’re the best! after reading your article this morning, i decided to try the ‘5 hour rule’ and put my son down for his nap around 5ish hours after he woke up this morning. i just had to wake him from a 3:15 hr nap! and as i was eating our late lunch, i saw your reply to my post. thanks so much for the help and for the info about meal times and food. he’s definitely a growing boy who is ALWAYS in the 80-90% for height and weight!
    i appreciate your website a lot … even if i do occasionally obsess over it (and my son’s sleep 🙂 )

    • Nicole says

      @Lisa AWESOME!! You’re very welcome!

  6. Kristi says

    I’m confused … this article doesn’t tell you how to do anything, but rather gives generalities about the different ages. It either needs a different title or more detailed information IMHO.

  7. Pam says

    I have almost the exact same situation as Anne, except my daughter is about to be 13 months and is with family 2x week and daycare 3x. She sleeps great in her crib at night, but she’s never been a good napper and will only sleep in a bouncy chair (often after much protesting). I would love any suggestions too!!

  8. Anne says

    HI- I too am struggling with my 14 mos old ‘s napping. Up until 1 month ago- she napped 2x a day.. 9 am and 130pm ish. She sleeps 11 hours at night ( most nights) with a 7-730 pm bed time.. However,,, She seems to want to skip the morning nap.. She wakes around 6 and by 10 is Tired but wont sleep! We then try putting her down a few times ( as she is tired but now cries) and protests… until she passes out at noon and maybe sleeps an 1hour. By 4 -5 pm she is a wreck! I have heard toddlers go throught this. I also know they need more than and hour to recharge. I am trying to get her on some schedule again.. She attends daycare 3 x a week and has family watch her one day.. Then home with mom and dad 3 days.. HELP!! I would love any suggestions! She was always a pretty good napper until now.. And i hate for her to start to cry again.. THanks!

  9. Lisa says

    Great topic! I would like to set nap times for my eight-month-old at 8:00 am and noon (the first nap is early because she often wakes at 5:00 or 5:30 am). However, the amount of time she sleeps for naps changes from day to day–sometimes an hour or more, sometimes closer to 30 minutes.

    If she sleeps a long time for her first nap, the second nap needs to be pushed later than noon. But if she has a bad nap morning, it seems like her second nap needs to be even earlier than noon. How can I get her on a schedule when her amount of sleep changes so much? Because her sleep is erratic, I end up feeding her at different times each day. I think she would do better on a set schedule but not sure how to get her there!

  10. Lisa says

    well, we are in the midst of trying to figure out a schedule for our 18month old and nothing seems to be consistent except for a waking around 5ish (we have had 430, on occasion 🙁 ). and we don’t really love that … at all. we’ve tried different bedtimes ranging between 6-8 and still nothing gets us away from that wake time. 8 is the closest we can get to 6 (tho it’s usually more like 530) right now so we’ve been going with that. but then, what if he takes a shorter nap, like 1.5 hrs? that’s a long day and with only maybe 11.5 hrs of total sleep. doesn’t seem like enough? and we’re definitely getting more feisty! not sure if that’s the age or the lack of sleep! any suggestions? i feel like i should just let it go that my son is never going to be one of those great sleeping kids and that he’s just an active boy.

    also i should add that my husband is not super keen on 6pm bedtime because then he doesn’t get any time to really enjoy our son. 6-8pm is such a nice family time!

    • Nicole says

      @Lisa I know it can be tricky having an early bedtime. At 18 months old, waking too early is often caused by being over-tired at bedtime, which is one of the most counter-intuitive things about baby sleep! Also, another thing to look for would be where dinner is at 5 or 5:30 p.m. and then he goes to bed say at 7:30 p.m. without a snack between. If you don’t already, try to add in a snack or move dinner to 6:30 p.m., for example, and see if you can get his internal clock in synch. Also, make sure you do not get him out of bed until at least 6 or 6:30 p.m. and don’t give him any milk or anything to eat first thing in the morning. You are not alone in that waking up too early is one of the most common issues I hear about. For a schedule, at this age, nap should be about 5 to 5 1/2 hours after waking for the day and bedtime within 5 hours after waking from his nap. All babies are, of course, different, and I know what it’s like to have an energetic little boy! 🙂 Good luck!

      @Lisa (2 haha) This is very common around this age whether you nap truly by the clock or based on awake time. Depending on the baby, you can stick to a true clock schedule where you put her down at noon even if she takes a short nap, for example. If she takes an extra long nap, some people would still stick to the same nap schedule and if baby plays for a bit before the nap, that is often okay, as long as it doesn’t happen EVERY day, which would mean you should just change her schedule. 🙂 It is often best to still have some flexibility in the schedule in that you base the next nap time on how long she’s been awake, if she’s sensitive to taking short naps, if she’s up too long. If she’s not, I’d try to stick to 8, 12:30, and 3:30 for 1-2 weeks and see if she gets into a groove. Good luck!

      @Anne It sounds like she is transitioning to one nap! 🙂 You will likely need to put her down for a nap around 11:30-ish to try to catch her before she is TOO over-tired and then opt for an early bedtime to compensate. It takes a good 1-2 weeks to transition to one nap, but she should begin to get used to it and start napping longer. Make sure you do not get her up too soon after waking to encourage her nap to lengthen. At first the nap is about an hour, then will get to 1 1/2 hours, then, eventually, 2-3 hours. It does take some time and you might need to give her two naps every 5-6 days or so. Hang in there and good luck!

      @Pam The transition to one nap can happen any time after 12 months, usually, though average is 15 to 18 months. Have you tried spreading out her naps a bit more, first? For example, you might have a 7-10:30-3:30-8 schedule. As for transitioning her to napping in the crib, that would take some sleep coaching and adjustment. She probably thinks she will miss too much fun napping, so you would need to enforce crib sleeping and give her time to adjust and accept the new routine to change that. Expectations are a big part of that. If she expects to nap in the bouncy, she will always expect that and protest anything but her normal routine, until she has a new routine. 🙂 Good luck!

      @Kristi I’m sorry you didn’t find the article useful. I tried to give strategies for each age group for getting on a schedule such as lengthening awake periods and such. It is sometimes hard to make an article useful to a wide variety of people going through different things at different times and all with different situations and unique babies. 🙂 If you have a specific question, ask away! Good luck!