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Exhausted and Confused?   Yes! I need help and more sleep.
Exhausted and Confused?   Yes! I need help and more sleep.
Exhausted and Confused?   Yes! I need help and more sleep.

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  1. Dyan says

    Thanks! I was shocked to learn (months ago) that he might actually need to nap earlier than about 1 or 1:30. I was a nanny for years and never saw a child take a nap at 11:45 or noon. I tried about 6 weeks before school to move his naps back a bit at a time, but when we hit 12:45 we hit a wall. Always. I assume he will eventually get used to sleeping later in the day. At this point no nap equals a 6:30ish bedtime. He falls asleep quickly but 1 out of 3 nights average he wakes around 10 PM having nightmares. I am hoping in a few more weeks he will be past this stage! Thanks for all the help!

  2. Lainie says

    Thanks, Nicole. We’ll see if we can find the right combination.

  3. Michelle says

    @Nicole, thank you! He was only a month old when that article was posted. I need to do a little more reading on your site 🙂 I appreciate so much that you take the time to respond to comments. It keeps me sane when I start to get worried!

  4. Nicki says

    My 9 month old isn’t falling asleep on his own yet. When we put him down in his crib for bedtime around 6:30 (hoping for a 7:30 bedtime) he comes wide awake and plays and rolls around forever even when he is bone tired and falling asleep at the breast. Then when he gets tired enough, he fusses for us to pick him up and rock him to sleep which usually, at that point, only takes a minute or two. He has gotten pretty good about putting himself back to sleep when he wakes in the middle of the night but not 100% yet. When he wakes in the am, if it’s before 7a, he plays in his crib until then. Same for naps if he wakes before 1 hour unless he is “hard” crying. He doesn’t have downtime in his crib other than that unless for some reason I have to run to the mailbox or something. He loves his crib and can play in there for up to 1 hour even though it’s usually around 20 min. I don’t think it’s cruel at all if it’s limited. I think it’s cruel is people use the crib as a babysitter and don’t let their kids get out and explore their world.

  5. Nkem says

    My 7months old baby isnt doing bad; an easy going person even towards the bedtime period. He tends to stay awake while we are awake but then being a baby, putting him on the bed, says “nap time”! I actually put a sucker into his mouth and before you know it he is asleep.

  6. Sasha says

    My 2,5 yo is not a perfect sleeper)) but IF he doesn`t cry after I leave the room, he can talk to himself occasionally. I would say it happens when he really needs to re-live some moments of the day. and I think it`s a good habit – it helps to release some strong impressions and I do recommend it to all adults – to spend a few minutes before going to sleep remembering this day impressions and letting them go.
    anyway, for babies maybe if they spend too much time lying there, not sleeping, it can become a bad habit. but why should it be dangerous?

  7. Lainie says

    This article speaks to my soul. 😉

    My 3yo, starting from when she was about 1, started taking longer and longer to fall asleep. Just talking and singing. Cute at first, but then it go to where night time was too late (she didn’t do this for naps). We recently cut out her naps (except on days she seems really tired), and she falls fast asleep at 7:30 within mere seconds. It’s bliss!!!

    My almost 18 month old is starting this habit, and obviously she needs her nap. But it’s SO confusing to know if she’s taking forever to fall asleep (I mean an hour or more sometimes) because she’s OVERTIRED or NOT TIRED ENOUGH. Ahh! Her nap is 11:30-1:30 with a 7pm bedtime. My hunch is that by 7 she’s actually overtired, although she doesn’t cry in bed. She’s wide awake. Would you suggest like a 12:30-2:30 nap with the same bed time?

    Love your articles, Nicole! You seem to always know what is troubling your fellow mothers. 🙂

  8. Michelle says

    Now that my 8mo son is starting to crawl and pull himself up, all he wants to do is sit up, crawl around and pull up on things. When we put him in his crib for naps and bedtime, he immediately sits up and can be heard in his room falling against the side of the crib or talking for up to a half hour. I know that when they learn new skills, it can affect their sleep and he has been waking up in the middle of the night lately. Gotta love when they learn new skills!

    He also seems very tired when we initially put him down for the night around 7 or 7:30pm but after being in his crib for 15-20 min, he seems wide awake. We have been leaving him in his room even though we would LOVE to play with him and keep him up until 8pm just to spend some extra quality time with him. I can understand separation anxiety with parents now. I miss him so much at night.

  9. Dyan says

    My son is 22 months old and just started preschool in the mornings so I can get some work done. Before school when we were “on schedule” he would wake up at 8, nap at 12:30 (anything later and he would not sleep), up at 2:30ish, bed around 7:30-8. On occasion he talks a bit before nap and bed. We noticed when he starts to get overtired he will “talk” until as late as 9:30 but then sleep well and wake up at his normal time. If he gets too overtired he will fall asleep instantly at bedtime but then wake up in the middle of the night for an hour or two and talk.

    Now that he is in school we are having trouble with waking at 6:30 (still has the option to sleep until 7:45) and skipping naps. He stays at school until 12:50, then 15 minutes to get home. I started out picking him up at 11:45 and moving it back by 15 minutes every few days. That worked until we got to picking him up at 12:30 and having him doing naptime around 12:45. Suggestions?

  10. Jane says

    This is the perfect topic! I was just discussing this with my mom. My 15 month old daughter seems to be transitioning to one nap. Each day is different, but sometimes we are only getting in the morning nap (and even that one depends on so many things). In the afternoon she will roll around and talk to herself for up to an hour or more if we let her. I’ve never known what to really do in those situations – do I let her continue because sometimes she eventually falls asleep – or do I go in and get her because it’s cruel (even though I know/think she needs a nap). I’m guessing this is a good sign for us that we need to start pushing the morning nap back a little until we have the one solid afternoon nap. Thankfully her rolling and playing haven’t seemed to affect any night sleep and when she does fall asleep for her naps they’re always at least 90 minutes (and she’s always getting at least one per day). Thanks for all your help! Your weekly entries are always so relevant to what I seem to be going through.

    • Nicole says

      @Jane Nap transitions are a very common time to have more down time than usual and usually is not a problem. The “rest time” even if she is not sleeping is actually good for her to avoid being too over-tired at bedtime, if she doesn’t ever fall asleep. If she does eventually fall asleep, then even better reason to continue to give her this time. If you do see a pattern, though, you may just want to bump awake time a smidge and put her in her crib 30 minutes later than you normally would while she’s transitioning. Sounds like she’s doing great and thanks for commenting!

      @Dyan If your son only recently started preschool, I’d give him some time to adjust to see if he will get used to a 1 p.m. nap, which is actually very common at this age. In fact, I’m fairly surprised he fell asleep at 12:30 p.m. after waking at 8 a.m. 🙂 Goes to show that all kids are indeed different! I would recommend an earlier bedtime during this adjustment as he being over-tired at bedtime is the most likely reason for waking too early in the morning. I’d recommend trying to get him to bed, asleep, by 7 p.m. and see if he begins to sleep 7p-7a and starts to nap better, eventually. Then, you can move the schedule forward to 8p-7:30/7:45 a.m. if you wanted to. Good luck!

      @Michelle 8 months is a very common trouble spot with pulling up, etc. when they should be sleeping. Here is the article about it here, in case you missed it: https://www.babysleepsite.com/baby-sleep-patterns/8-9-10-month-old-baby-sleep-regression/ I know it’s hard when you miss your baby at night. 🙁 If it becomes routine for him to stay awake until 8 p.m., that may be his true bedtime, and you’d be fine to wait until 7:30 p.m. to put him down. But, if this is new, I’d give him a bit more time. He may need the time to process his new skills and you don’t want to get in the way of that and make him over-tired. Good luck!

      @Lainie Thank you! I’m glad I have a “pulse” on what many people are going through at the time. 🙂 I know it’s so confusing to know if a baby or toddler is under- or over-tired. I would assume, based on the time of the year, that your 18-month old can’t sleep due to bedtime being too early ONLY because it’s summer and it’s bright out. Expect this to change in the Fall, again. I would try to move the nap to 12-2 or 12:30-2:30 and then make bedtime a bit later to correspond more closely to the sun setting. This is more prevalent in 18 months or older toddlers. Good luck!

      @Sasha Very cute! 🙂 I agree it’s good to reflect on your day as well. It is not dangerous that he lays there awake. It can only be bad for sleep IF it’s a habit and he is in bed “too” much in that it can cause long middle of the night wakings or waking too early in the morning, that’s all. 🙂

      @Nkem That’s great he’s doing so well! Thanks for sharing.

      @Nicki It sounds like he’s doing great! You may be surprised that he falls asleep in a few minutes once he starts fussing. He may not need to be rocked at all as he sounds like a good self-soother the fact he can roll around on his own for an hour. You might just try it! 🙂 It sounds like you’re doing great and good luck!