Comments on: Ferber or Weissbluth? https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/ Get rid of frustrating baby sleep problems and heartbreaking tears with our baby sleep guides and sleep consultations that let you get the rest you need! Wed, 12 Jan 2022 00:17:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: Nancy https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-1/#comment-113388 Sat, 14 Jul 2018 13:08:10 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-113388 In reply to Elizabeth.

I have as a postpartum doula for twelve years and agree that “The 90 Minute Sleep Solution” works for many babies. It’s beneficial to both babies and parents, providing an easy and accessible tool without instituting a rigid schedule.

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By: Nicole Johnson https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-2/#comment-31356 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:02:01 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-31356 In reply to Heather.

@Heather That’s great that co-sleeping works for you and I agree that all families need to find what works for them. What works for one may not work for all. Thank you for commenting!

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By: Heather https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-2/#comment-31333 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:24:37 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-31333 I appreciate that different families need different methods for their babies, but for the life of me I don’t understand Weissbluth or Ferber deciding that they have the ultimate answers to any/all family or child sleep issue. I have to say that I am an eternal fan of Dr. Sears, who in extreme summary says “do what’s best for you, your family, and your child…” and advocates a no-crying method from his own experience. And look! All of his children are well-adjusted, well-educated adults. I can’t for the life of me understand how anyone can let their child “cry it out,” but I know that some feel it’s what’s best and what’s right…to each their own. I will snuggle in with my 21-month old until she’s ready to be in her own bed and we can talk about it, as will my husband. And I will sleepily get her milk in the middle of the night if she needs it. And I have fed her on demand since birth. And she’s amazingly well-spoken and verbal and very tall and strong and social. And I work full-time plus. And so does my husband. Just for the record.

To each their own. All children are different. I think it’s best that all parents realize that before they decide a particular scientist’s prescription for everyone is right for their child…large generalizations are always dangerous.

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By: Nicole Johnson https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-1/#comment-31331 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:38:54 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-31331 In reply to Meagan.

@Meagan It doesn’t sound too complicated to me in that we often had different strategies for bedtime than night-waking and such. I recommend that after feedings, make sure he’s still semi-awake to keep the consistency that he always goes back to sleep on his own to limit possible confusion on his part. Thank you for commenting!

@Lydia Goes to show even babies within the same family are different! 🙂 Thank you for sharing our experience.

@Mahua In Weissbluth’s book he doesn’t talk about all the temperament traits (that I remember), but does talk a lot about how there are different types of babies. For example, on Page 80 (in my copy), he talks about making different decisions for different babies. I appreciated that he wasn’t making the assumption that all babies are the same. Having said that, I agree that a lot of the books imply “do it my way and it will definitely work.” Soooo not true! There is no silver bullet that will work for all babies and all families. And, not all babies will cry just 3 days that the books imply. That was another thing that drove me nuts! 🙂 Thank you for commenting!

@Kendra Oh yes! “Sleep begets sleep” is sooo true in a lot of circumstances. Get better sleep during the day and help your baby sleep better at night. Your baby sounds like a good self-entertainer! That always makes it a little tougher. Depending on his age (when they are young, they are not afraid of the dark, usually), you might turn off the nightlight. We had to do that when our boys were babies until their imagination started flourishing around 14 months. 🙂

@Natalie Sooo true! We *have* to expect change. Babies are not robots and go through A LOT of development so quickly these first few years.

@Shannon That’s great you’ve seen such great success and so quickly! I wish everyone had such quick success, but unfortunately, we won’t. But, it’s great when some families find what works and what works well for the baby! Thank you for sharing your experience with us!

@Elizabeth Oh no!! I’m sorry your 20 month old still doesn’t sleep through the night! 🙁 That is exhausting, I know! I have heard of “The 90 Minute Sleep Solution” but don’t hear about it too many times in consultations. I often recommend 90 minutes of awake time in babies 4 months and younger, though. Thank you for sharing!

@Sophie Is she hungry at 4 a.m.? If so, add in another snack somewhere in her daytime schedule, say right before bedtime, which can help a lot. My boys struggled a lot going 12-13 hours without eating, so we found a snack to be imperative.

@Jennifer Awww, thank you! 🙂 Seeing how different my two boys are (sleep-wise and otherwise) and reading soooo many family histories every day, there is no question that temperament, sensitivity to stimuli, self-settling tendencies, and personality are huge influences in what type of experience you have surrounding sleep. Thank you for commenting and your kind words! I knew my son would change my life, but never knew just how much. I LOVE this! 🙂

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By: Jennifer A. https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-2/#comment-31289 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:09:32 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-31289 My son (now 3.5) wakes up at least once a night about 50% of the time and has since he was born. I rocked/nursed my son to sleep until he was about 18 months old when he was able to fall asleep on his own without crying. My daughter (9 months) is a much better night sleeper than my son, although he was a better napper. She has since about 2 months old slept at least 12 hours at night without night feedings (except for the duration of two colds). I also rock/nurse my daughter every night and at nap time, the same way in the same chair in fact. Often my daughter is not fully asleep, but in a sort of dreamy milk induced sleep haze and falls asleep within seconds of hitting her crib mattress.

My children have extremely different temperaments and I believe that makes all the difference in their sleep habits. I have never read a sleep training book but I do enjoy thoughtful dialogue, discussion and information that is presented on this website. I find Nicole’s personalized approach and perspective refreshing and so much more tolerable than a one-size-fits-all attitude. Keep up the great work and thank you for sharing your stories with us :.)

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By: Mahua Mandal https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-1/#comment-31274 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:17:09 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-31274 Elizabeth – I think we may have babies with similar temperaments. I entirely understand the off and on crying for hours (with the caveat that after many, many weeks of sleep training, and hours upon hours of crying, my boy is FINALLY sleeping 10-11 hours at night). I think your perspective of trying to relax as much as physically possible, and knowing that you’re doing the best you can in this situation is right on. Something for everyone – esp. those with very persistent babies who are naturally poor sleeper – to keep in mind. Thank you for sharing that, as it makes me feel like I’m not the only one with a baby who didn’t successfully sleep train in just 4 days!

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By: Sophie https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-1/#comment-31273 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:37:04 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-31273 We stuck mostly with Ferber. I found Weissbluth’s book incredibly difficult to read and confusing. Plus I found the early bedtime to be impractical. My daughter (12 months) never seems to get more than 9-10 hrs a night, no matter how early we put her to bed. Now she wakes around 4 every morning and cries intermittently until 6. Sometimes she falls back asleep, other times I’m not so sure. We put her down at 8, she naps at 10 and 2:30/3. We’ve tried bedtime at 7, but then she’ll fight it and wake up even earlier the next morning. I’m seriously considering feeding her when she wakes at 4, but I don’t want to start another bad habit. Any thoughts?

All this sleep stuff is so frustrating!

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By: Elizabeth https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-1/#comment-31268 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:41:00 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-31268 Oh, and just wanted to add, the super early bedtime never worked for us… Just made her really angry! She almost always goes down around 8:00 (7-7:30 if she’s really really tired that day).

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By: Elizabeth https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-1/#comment-31267 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:37:27 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-31267 I agree that there is no “one size fits all” approach to baby sleep. I’ve read many books and none of them worked completely with my baby (now 20 month toddler) who still does not sleep through the night. After a visit to a sleep specialist at Cildren’s Memorial who patted me on the back for my good work (??? But she still isn’t sleeping!) I am trying to just relax as much as physically possible. I’m doing the best that anyone can do in our situation.

We also had a problem with extinction at 7.5 months … She cries off and on for hours. One morning I went in after 3 hrs of off and on crying to find her pj’s and sheets soaked. Her diaper had leaked.

Also I never see anyone mention “The 90 Minute Sleep Solution” for baby sleep. Even our sleep specialist hadn’t heard of it (although he was familiar with the science behind it). That was the most useful for naps for us.

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By: Shannon https://www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/ferber-or-weissbluth/comment-page-1/#comment-31262 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:28:08 +0000 http://www.babysleepsite.com/?p=7139#comment-31262 I’ve been reading Weissbluth per the recommendation of friends since our 6-month-old was born. I’ve remained pretty strict about not letting our LO remain awake for more than 2 hours straight. This has translated into 4 naps per day (each over 45 minutes long, most an hour, sometimes more).

It’s taken a while longer to get into a rhythm with our night sleep. I’m still breast-feeding and up ’til 5-1/2 months, our LO would wake up 2 – 3, sometimes 4, times at night and want to be fed (at least that’s what I was interpreting from his cries — or I fed him just to calm him down and go back to sleep myself). I was exhausted at having such fragmented sleep and figured at 6 months, we would try for extinction, especially since he would start eating solids and I felt he’d be getting enough nourishment to make it through the night. Here’s what happened:

Night 1: Put in bed awake, but sleepy, at 8 p.m. He started crying at 11 p.m. Everything in me wanted to go in and check on him, put his pacifier back in or rub his back. But I resisted. He cried for 30 minutes and stopped. Phew. Then he woke up at 2 a.m. and cried for 15 minutes. Then back to sleep. He made it to 4:30 a.m. and woke up crying again and I went in and fed him. Put him back to sleep and he slept ’til 8:30 a.m. woke up happy as a clam.

Night 2: Put in bed awake, but very sleepy, at 7:30 p.m. He started crying around 12:30 a.m. for just 15 minutes. Slept ’til 2:30 a.m. and started crying again, only 10 minutes. Then slept straight ’til 5:45 a.m. and I fed him, put him back to bed, and he slept ’til 7:45 a.m.

Night 3: Put in bed awake, but sleepy at 7:30 p.m. I honestly don’t remember if he cried at all, because if he did, it was so short that I probably didn’t have time to consider going in. He woke up at 5:30 a.m. I fed him, put him back in bed and he slept ’til 8:15 a.m. Hallelujah!

Night 4: Put in bed awake at 7:45 p.m. and he slept straight until 5:45 a.m. I fed him, put him back to sleep and he slept until 8:15 a.m.

I was amazed at how quickly he learned to sleep through the night, with little or no crying to boot. I realize every baby is different, so I don’t expect this to “work” for every child, but for us, we are a fan of Dr. Weissbluth’s methods and his encouragement for babies to get a lot of quality sleep. I agree that you need to watch your babies cues, so I put him down for a nap when I see that he’s tired. Again, 4 naps a day and 11 – 12 hours at night. It seems like a lot of sleep to me, but I trust that he’s getting what he needs because that’s what his body is telling me he needs.

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